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RE: Hahahaha I LOVE IT, SOC!
By: SOC - 06/26/2003, 09:50:14 In reply to Rednecknext>>
>The guys you defend. Would you trust them to set up shop in
>Ireland? OK, not a smoking gun. But clear evidence they
>deceived the world. At what point do dozens of small finds
>like this become proof? Read and understand why inspections
>were a waste of time.

Like you said, it's not proof. Circumstance is not proof. I think you are a gullible misguided fascist, but god dammit I can't prove it. There are plenty of things to suggest it though.


>Nuke program parts unearthed in Baghdad back yard
>U.S. officials: Find is not smoking gun
>Thursday, June 26, 2003 Posted: 1224 GMT ( 8:24 PM HKT)
>
>
>(CNN) -- The CIA has in its hands the critical parts of a
>key piece of Iraqi nuclear technology -- parts needed to
>develop a bomb program -- that were dug up in a back yard in
>Baghdad, CNN has learned.
>
>The parts, with accompanying plans, were unearthed by Iraqi
>scientist Mahdi Obeidi who said he had hidden them under a
>rose bush in his garden 12 years ago under orders from Qusay
>Hussein and Saddam Hussein's then son-in-law, Hussein Kamel.
>
>U.S. officials emphasized this was not evidence Iraq had a
>nuclear weapon -- but it was evidence the Iraqis concealed
>plans to reconstitute their nuclear program as soon as the
>world was no longer looking.
>
>Obeidi told CNN the parts of a gas centrifuge system for
>enriching uranium were part of a highly sophisticated system
>he was ordered to hide to be ready to rebuild the bomb
>program.
>
>"I have very important things at my disposal that I have
>been ordered to have, to keep, and I've kept them, and I
>don't want this to proliferate, because of its potential
>consequences if it falls in the hands of tyrants, in the
>hands of dictators or of terrorists," said Obeidi, who has
>been taken out of Iraq with the help of the U.S. government.
>
>Obeidi also said he was not the only scientist ordered to
>hide that type of equipment.
>
>David Kay, who led three U.N. arms inspection missions in
>Iraq in 1991-92 and now heads the CIA's search for
>unconventional weapons, started work two days ago in
>Baghdad. CNN spoke to him about the case over a secure
>teleconferencing line.
>
>"It begins to tell us how huge our job is," Kay said.
>"Remember, his material was buried in a barrel behind his
>house in a rose garden.
>
>"There's no way that that would have been discovered by
>normal international inspections. I couldn't have done it.
>My successors couldn't have done it."
>
>Experts said the documents and pieces Obeidi gave the United
>States were the critical information and parts to restart a
>nuclear weapons program, and would have saved Saddam's
>regime several years and as much as hundreds of millions of
>dollars for research.
>
>David Albright, who was a U.N. nuclear weapons inspector in
>Iraq in the 1990s, said inspectors "understood that Iraq
>probably hid centrifuge documents, may have had components,
>and so it is very important that those items be found."
>
>"What it is that Obeidi was ordered to keep was all the
>information and some centrifuge components, so that if he
>was given the order, he could restart the centrifuge
>program," said Albright, president of the Institute for
>Science and International Security in Washington.


A recent U.S. test determined that 2 phd students could design a working nuclear device in 30 months. You are dead right, not a smoking gun. What I wand to see is a proven readily deployable weapon of mass destruction verified by outside independant inspectors. Anything else is not really relevant is it? This is a centrifuge, not a bomb. A centrifuge is not a weapon. Besides, how about that North Korea, bet that's got loads of them. Burma too. maybe even Ireland.
As to the knowledge, most of that can be garnered from the internet.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,974144,00.html


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