>"Funnily enough, neither Rumsfeld or Bush mentioned this in
>the build uo to war."
>
>Huh? Weren't you listening one of the ten thousand times
>when Bush said the war could easily be avoided if Saddam
>would step down? That's what regime change meant. Change the
>regime that supported the wmd, not kill Iraqi people.



Not the legal reason given for the the invasion, WMD were.
>
>"number of civilian deaths and disfigurements, the use of
>cluster bombs on civillian suburbs, the shooting of women
>and children, the sight of decapitated babies will live long
>in the memories of Iraqi's and westerners alike."
>
>All overblown by a media anxious to undermine us. Saddam did
>those things regularly; we tried to avoid them.

Do you deny these things happened?

>"There is a concept in the Koran called the Ummah, the body
>of Islam. Under this concept and attack on an individual
>muslim by an infidel is an attack on Islam itself, therefore
>all muslims"

>Doesn't the Koran also forbid suicide bombing? yet many do
>it in the name of "religion"

Agreed, as does the Christian commandment, thou shalt not kill forbid murder. People will take what they want and use as they please.


>"Saddam, his avowed enemy is gone and all of a sudden he
>haas gone from being a fairly marginalised extremist to a
>popular folk hero in the space of about 2 months."

>Who cares, Paul Bunyon's a popular folk hero too. Osama is
>hiding like a scared rabbit in a hole! Where are all the
>retaliatory strikes he promised?

2 things. 1 What is important here is the concept of Osma bin laden, not the man. he has become a figurehead and an icon for alot of impressionable young men who are ripe to fall into the hands of previously marginalised Islamic extremists using his mantra. Whether he's alive or dead is largely irrelevant. He's not some comic book arch villain character. It's not about "Good" vs "Evil", if only it were that simple.

2) Paul Bunyon is a fictional character with a big blue Ox called babe. Not a reason to commit a suicide bombing, or join an armed struggle against your percieved opressors.

>"People in Iraq want the US out ASAP. That is the overall
>impression I get"
>
>Sure they do, I agree. But that's because their anxious to
>run their own country, something they only could dream of
>last year.

Well better hurry up about it.