Okay,Carl,it's like this.............
Posted by don-ohio from newlmus-fw.portsmouth.zoomnet.net (208.31.76.2) on Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 4:12PM :
In Reply to: re: let's make helmets out of cast iron! posted by Carl F from 216-224-149-217.thegrid.net (216.224.149.217) on Thursday, February 21, 2002 at 3:06PM :
: What happens in a two-vehicle crash is awfully hard to predict- as for an F-250 driving over a Volvo wagon, who knows. Nonetheless, let me again advise you to examine the construction of passenger cars and compare it to trucks. Cars have time and time again been proven in tests to be far safer than trucks, vans, and SUV's. They have to meet stricter criteria, and they do. It would certainly seem, from a simplistic approach, that more metal would always be an asset, but things are not as simple as they seem.
: As far as any perceived "brain-cramp" I may be having, it seems particularly odd to me that a moped rider would extoll the virtues of more metal and American iron ad nauseum. Nothing wrong with mopeds, but it does seem to be an odd dichotomy.
: : Carl,you're wrong,wrong,wrong!My truck would not only crush the Volvo but probably run right up on top of it!The Volvo is the loser.The problem is that people are only hearing about cars which under their own weight are run into a wall.A head-on collision totally changes the situation.Then it's big against little,strong against weak,weight and speed against weight and speed.Don't compare apples to oranges Carl.But it's none of my business if people decide to risk their lives in styrofoam cars.Go ahead......make my day!The Volvo IS a fine car;that's why a fine Company like Ford bought it.But it's NO MATCH in a 55 mph head-on with a 4800 lb. F-250!Get Real,Carl!Re-read my post over and over until your `brain-cramp' subsides.Okay? Don-ohio (:^)
My riding a slow moped or scoot has nothing to do with what I put my Family in.(I ride a moped or bicycle to do away with the humdrum of driving 30,000 miles a year in my big,comfortable cars.If I drove a moped or scoot every day,I'm sure I would enjoy taking a 4-wheeler out now and then.I'm a Family Man.I protect my family against anything I can.The more metal and weight(strength) I put around them and between a collision and them in a soundly engineered way,THE BETTER!It will not be my fault if someone gets killed in a Honda Civic just because they wanted to save gas.I have no control over that.But I do not leave my Family without proper head-on collision protection.A fellow I work with here bought his wife a nice big slightly used Lincoln.She was driving home one night and a 2000 lb. bull stepped out in front of her.She hit the bull and it flew straight up over her hood,crunching in the top frame of the windshield and mashing the bonnet down on the engine.BUT GUESS WHAT! Thanks to the forward weight and toughness of that vehicle,she was not injured!The one-ton bull was killed outright!Now you wanna hit that bull with a Toy-Motor,be my guest!You'd probably get gored after the little car bounced off the angry bull.`Course you probably wouldn't feel a thing.Get my drift?Someday I will tell you another story about my teenaged boy who was plowed by a van directly into the side of a Mercury Cougar.And how I was so thankful to see that Ford had put rails in the door,not to crumple and give way,but to resist that door coming in and crushing my boy.He was fine.THANK GOD!The cougar had to have a new door,windshield,trim.paint,etc.The impact had actually knocked the Cougar 10 ft.sideways!When I got to the car,and knew he was safe,I said:`Now,Justin!You see why I didn't get you a Geo Metro or Honda?He said he was glad I hadn't.I probably won't be able to talk to you any longer `cause I won't be near a PC for a while.Think about it! (:^)
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